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Post by Walms on Nov 8, 2012 14:12:52 GMT -5
Drewski, you need to try my bike with the new 1/2" master cylinder and the EX caliper! The braking power is unbelievable! I can honestly say that I'm the weak link if there is an issue not stopping fast enough. The only reason to add another disc to a 400 lb. bike would be for the look of duals.
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Post by drewski on Nov 8, 2012 14:37:58 GMT -5
Drewski, you need to try my bike with the new 1/2" master cylinder and the EX caliper! The braking power is unbelievable! I can honestly say that I'm the weak link if there is an issue not stopping fast enough. The only reason to add another disc to a 400 lb. bike would be for the look of duals. There's no doubt the weight of the bike, tire size, etc. is a big factor. I still think with a h1 there might be an advantage with dual discs. I KNOW with the h2 and KZ there is! EDIT: I guess my real issue is the suggestion that too much braking power is unsafe. I think it's the control-ability of the braking power that makes the difference. If you grab a "huge handful" in the wrong situation or circumstance... down you go. Even ANY front brake on a slippery surface will put you on your ear. Don't ask how I know! That isn't the brakes fault. It's like "too much horsepower"... no such thing!! ;D
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Post by Walms on Nov 8, 2012 15:11:32 GMT -5
It took me to almost kiss the butt of a BMW for me to be convinced!!! The funny thing (bad choice of words) about the stock braking system is it makes you feel that it is adequate for daily riding until you need to to a panic stop and you realize that they are crap!!! I parked my bike until I got the EX installed... No joke!
The same season, I was cut off by a lady making a left hand turn... I was able to stop quickly enough that I was able to release the brake and snake around her at the very last minute... I truly believe the brakes saved my life or at least a trip to the hospital that day!!!
You are right though, there is no point in having overly sensitive brakes and if you do, you'd probably want to add stiffer fork springs and gold emulator valves so you don't get bucked off.
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Post by Ned on Nov 8, 2012 15:27:35 GMT -5
Gold emulator valves?
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Post by drewski on Nov 8, 2012 16:21:43 GMT -5
Front fork internals. Race Tech Suspension products have become popular with the Vintage and Classic folks!
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Post by Walms on Nov 8, 2012 16:21:44 GMT -5
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Post by drewski on Nov 8, 2012 16:25:51 GMT -5
no point in having overly sensitive brakes Ya, but I'd maintain that overly sensitive brakes are bad brakes. You need to be able to control them in a panic situation without locking them up.
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Post by Walms on Nov 8, 2012 17:44:11 GMT -5
I guess we are in agreement then.
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Post by Ned on Nov 8, 2012 17:50:46 GMT -5
In this day and age of anti-lock brakes (in our 4 wheeled vehicles), it is hard to think you can grab too much brake, eh?
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Post by Ned on Nov 8, 2012 18:01:29 GMT -5
Oh, and I am going ahead with the factory dual disc set up.
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Post by Walms on Nov 8, 2012 18:50:46 GMT -5
Nothing wrong with that! The performance maybe similar to a single EX setup but it is period correct.
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Post by JA-Moo on Nov 8, 2012 19:41:46 GMT -5
The thing is, there are only so many sizes of master cylinders. Changing the size of the master cylinder, can easily go from a wooden feel, to too much lever movement. I guess if you played enough, you might find a good combination.
I like a good handling bikes, adding 10 or so lbs. of unsprung weight for no other reason than looks, doesn't compute for me.
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Post by Ned on Nov 11, 2012 17:56:54 GMT -5
New pistons in their new homes!
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Post by Ned on Nov 11, 2012 18:10:02 GMT -5
What's for dinner?
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Post by Walms on Nov 11, 2012 19:01:38 GMT -5
She's looking sweet Dave! Nice roast...
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