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Post by zambia on Nov 3, 2016 12:17:26 GMT -5
Actually I took the time to do some stress analysis on my 400 frame, the info is buried here somewhere. So not my opinion as much as fact. Whether or not the rider takes it to the point where it makes the bike squirrelly is another thing. I know my stock KH400 frame with the swingarm reinforced is rigid enough for my style of riding. This is an intriguing debate. When I got my '72 H2 in 1977, I rode with a guy who owned an H1D and an H2B. He swapped the motors and raved about how much better the 750 power worked with the H1D frame. I always wondered why Kawasaki didn't put the H2 motor in the frame they already had? Did they even try? What was their justification for engineering an inferior frame for a more powerful engine?
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Post by Walms on Nov 3, 2016 13:00:04 GMT -5
Personally I think it's the 19" front wheel that makes both feel like a lumber wagon.
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Post by drewski on Nov 3, 2016 14:37:12 GMT -5
Actually I took the time to do some stress analysis on my 400 frame, the info is buried here somewhere. So not my opinion as much as fact. I don't disagree with the 'facts' at all. My only point is that in the real world where we actually ride these things, your time and money is better spent elsewhere when it comes to handling.
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Post by autofobe on Nov 3, 2016 15:12:43 GMT -5
Personally I think it's the 19" front wheel that makes both feel like a lumber wagon. The 18" front wheel & shorter wheel base make it turn in a little quicker,but better shocks & bearings in the swingarm,& heavier fork oil go a long way to improve the handling.Also wider tires make it more lethargic. The smaller front wheel on the H1 hurts pipe clearance.I believe the 400 has more clearance even with the 18" front wheel.I could be wrong though.But I did run an 18" on my race bike. Brad
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Post by Walms on Nov 3, 2016 19:06:35 GMT -5
Yes, I can confirm good shocks make a difference. I had a seal go bad on 1 rear shock and my bike became pretty squirrelly. Which also tells me at the same time that my swingarm is too weak. Just thinking now that it might be cheaper to brace a stock swingarm than replace it.... π€
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Post by autofobe on Nov 3, 2016 20:04:12 GMT -5
That & a swing arm bearing kit is the way to go,IMO Brad
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Post by sf on Nov 3, 2016 20:48:38 GMT -5
Yes, I can confirm good shocks make a difference. I had a seal go bad on 1 rear shock and my bike became pretty squirrelly. Which also tells me at the same time that my swingarm is too weak. Just thinking now that it might be cheaper to brace a stock swingarm than replace it.... π€ And kooler lookingπ
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Post by Curtis on Nov 3, 2016 22:03:53 GMT -5
Something along these lines should do the job... plus it still keeps the vintage vibe
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Post by sooperarthur on Nov 3, 2016 23:32:57 GMT -5
Something along these lines should do the job... plus it still keeps the vintage vibe Do I ever need to build one of those!!
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Post by Walms on Nov 4, 2016 5:45:21 GMT -5
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Post by triplepoweredgpz on Nov 4, 2016 5:59:03 GMT -5
Yep...good ideer
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Post by sf on Nov 4, 2016 13:14:34 GMT -5
Denis at CMR can brace your swinger, he did a great job on my 550
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Post by drewski on Nov 5, 2016 18:15:07 GMT -5
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Post by Walms on Nov 5, 2016 21:00:18 GMT -5
Good to hear you are making progress! I'm sure the weekend weather will last until Christmas at least! π
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Post by drewski on Nov 5, 2016 21:12:46 GMT -5
Good to hear you are making progress! I'm sure the weekend weather will last until Christmas at least! π Ya, amazing weekend, eh?! I think my bikes are getting 'bedded down' for the winter, but it sure is amazingly mild!!
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