kawtippin
3rd Gear
What does the triple say? RING DING DING DA DING DA DING DING
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Post by kawtippin on Jun 3, 2010 18:10:28 GMT -5
I have wirges and pods on my F. I am running 100 mains outside and 102.5 in the middle. It was still a little rich. So i went and adjusted the needles.The clips were second from the bottom. So i lifted them to the second to the top. Now its a little lean i think. So i am going to put them in the middle and try it out. I'll let you know. Have a good one Lance
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Post by kawonda750 on Jun 3, 2010 19:09:50 GMT -5
I saw Z today and got 110 mains. I had 100's from andre. I did not change the pilots because i love taking the carbs off and getting covered in gas and having my wife tell me I stink and to go wash again. Clips in the middle position. Definitely paid attention to where the throttle was and listened to it bog from 1/4 to 1/2 throttle. I'll have more fun taking the carbs off tomorrow and putting in the 35 pilots and being told that I stink ......really bad.
i can't even get it on the mains. I'll leave the 110's in right now and then get to change them baCK AT A LATER TIME.
i'm sure that this was fun at one time. don's is too close. Got to get a Safety and plate and insurance. Oh yea, and have this thing running. Norton is not an alternative. hey, maybe a Kawonda with the twist tie kick holder.
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Post by tripletwerp on Jun 3, 2010 19:21:49 GMT -5
I've got some 110's and some #35 pilots....drop on by! fwiw, it sounds to me to just as likely be ignition/spark related does not sound unlike a blown over capacitor or condenser or maybe shorted out battery plates or corroded terminals in the fuseholder, ...
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Post by H2 Dude on Jun 4, 2010 0:33:21 GMT -5
As per book. .1358 BTDC actually a light .136 I did it statically using a points resistance gauge and then used a timing light. I had to retard it slightly to line up the marks. Dave when you set the Left piston to 3.4 mm . Did you adjust the timing with a buzz box or something similar first? Once you set the timing did you then move the marker on the stator plate to align with the L mark on the wheel? Sounds like you set the timing then readjusted . The needles you are using are correct 5DJ19 .and should be in the middle for starters . I also think a # 30 pilot should be close enough for you to run. I guess I'm leaning towards Ignition or a plugged exhaust.
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Post by kawonda750 on Jun 4, 2010 6:42:06 GMT -5
I set the timing with a testing meter set to pts. resistance. I set the indicator at this time. I then used a timing light and found that it was a little advanced and re-set, retarding it slightly.
Early on , I did have a plugged exhaust on 2 cylinders but cleaned them out and have a good exhaust flow equal on all cylinders.
It came to me in a dream which is scary in itself that maybe I'm running rich not because of jetting but because of lack of air. I put in the air screws from a kit. I am going to clean the old ones and put them back in instead. Hey, try anything, right?
I am certain that this is making me a better person with strong resolve and stick-to-it-iveness.
Ah. I feel better already.
Report on dream sequence to follow. No, not that dream you sickos.
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Post by zambia on Jun 4, 2010 6:45:14 GMT -5
Dreams work...as long as when you crawl into bed smelling like the Exxon Valdese your wife doesn't roll over saying "Givr? Givr? Is that you?"
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Post by lc on Jun 4, 2010 6:55:33 GMT -5
After all the charging issues did you fully recharge the battery? Does it run any different with headlight off?
Most Wirges have a second baffle ahead of the removable ones that are welded in. These are what are reported to plug up and cannot be cleaned.
J
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Post by givr on Jun 4, 2010 7:03:36 GMT -5
Cheeky Zambia ;D Safe to say I've never usurped another man's wife, no matter how much they begged me to. Hold the course Dave, you're getting there. I'm getting there too, it's frustrating to have things like family and my job prevent me from spending the kind of time that's necessary at this point. If you're like me, after the day winds down, and I'm available to wrench, I don't feel so much like doing it. Plus intermittant fire ups after 11pm cause neighbourhood discord.
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Post by mraxl on Jun 4, 2010 7:31:07 GMT -5
Dave, you've been getting plenty of advice so I won't complicate your efforts. However, if you can't get 6000 rpm out of a stock 500 with stock carb settings and timing set within reason, there is something else wrong. You can jet, rejet until you're blue in the face without desired results.
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Post by mraxl on Jun 4, 2010 11:15:43 GMT -5
Most Wirges have a second baffle ahead of the removable ones that are welded in. These are what are reported to plug up and cannot be cleaned. Attachments:
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Post by lc on Jun 4, 2010 14:40:47 GMT -5
^^^ Thanks Dale!
Resistor spark plug wires and/ or caps and/or plugs (some have reported no issues with running the resistor plugs on their own though ) and/or incorrect gap have also been reported to cause rev limiting.
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Post by kawonda750 on Jun 4, 2010 15:26:09 GMT -5
I had a great old time this afternoon. Changed the air screws back to originals. The kit ones were slightly longer. Really no difference. Timing is re-done and gapped. it wasn't really off anyway but that's also fun. raised the slide clips to the second position from the top from middle. Improvement but still too little. Put in new plugs gapped to .020. Pipes seem to be clear. Exhaust is coming out nicely. This is all subjective of course. Wires seem OK. Plug caps are the long ones Nichiwa XD055. I don't know if they're resistor or not. Plugs B9HS.
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Post by lc on Jun 4, 2010 16:51:27 GMT -5
You can check your plug caps with a meter. They should read near zero resistance. How is your battery voltage? Do you have a healthy spark at the plugs? Lots of fuel getting to the carbs?
J
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Post by mraxl on Jun 4, 2010 17:07:58 GMT -5
FWIW: Jetting for Wirges on a 500 should be 97.5 or 100 mains, clip in #4.. maybe #3, #30 pilot. Make sure the brass plug is in the intake of each carb.
Your symptoms sound like clogged pipes. If it were mine, I'd beg borrow, or steal some different pipes... 400, 500, or 750... tie them on with bailing wire and see if that didn't make a huge difference.
LC has mentioned it twice and H2Dude also.
You can measure the plug cap resistance from the wire end in the coil to the plug cap. It should be "0". A resistor cap will measure 5k ohms or more. If they are resistor wires/caps pitch them.
If you have fuel filters on get rid of them until everything is resolved.
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Post by bake on Jun 4, 2010 19:32:22 GMT -5
Most Wirges have a second baffle ahead of the removable ones that are welded in. These are what are reported to plug up and cannot be cleaned. Can they be heated red hot to burn out the second baffle then repainted?
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