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Post by bake on Sept 16, 2009 22:35:33 GMT -5
Greetings, just got my hands on a basket case H1...... here we go again! First off my camera is giving me grief tonight, better photo's to come.  The good: it looks all there most of the chrome is good it was cheap $125 including the manual The bad lets just say this is probably going to cost more than I could sell it for, but that has never stopped me before the crank needs love, just how much i don't know... who does these in western Canada? there is still cylinder stuck in the bore and the previous owner has the cases split.... argh, any good tips on how to get it unstuck?   |
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Post by bake on Sept 16, 2009 22:51:24 GMT -5
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Post by H2 Dude on Sept 17, 2009 1:10:19 GMT -5
I had to do this on a 350 . I would get the cylinder HOT and put in WD and let soak . Once cool re-heat and start banging the crap outa the piston .
Or smash the piston to pieces . I had to do this with a Ski-Doo that had seized really bad ..Not mine a customers dam thing welded itself ( not really but darn near) to the cylinder .
Hey you have a "B" best darn Triple ever made ... EH Don?
and the BEST looking ;D
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Post by s3steve on Sept 17, 2009 5:48:50 GMT -5
Great find Bake!
You do have your work cut out for you though.
Looks like we should all get an orange "B"!!
Ahh Ha, I see another Tractor owner in the group. ;D
Alright, just do not bring it to a triple rally unless you want an oil spray undercoating for the winter. ;D ;D
What's the other bike in the background? Laverta?
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Post by givr on Sept 17, 2009 6:20:21 GMT -5
If you get the piston loose, I suspect the cylinder will still be stuck on the studs. I've had great success with a spoonful of muriatic acid down each stud hold. Have lots of fresh water handy, gloves, goggles, etc. I did mine on the sidewalk with my garden hose at the ready. After about a minute of soaking, tap the cylinder with a rubber mallet, when the acid starts coming out the bottom of the stud hole between the cylinder and case, you know it's cleared out the oxide and dirt that was in the hole, and the cylinder should pull right off. Hose everything down, dry off the parts, then oil the cylinder bore and steel/iron parts (bearing journals, etc) to prevent corrosion. Dam B's showing up everywhere. ;D Beauty is in the eye of the beholder Arielman.....   |
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Post by zambia on Sept 17, 2009 7:56:05 GMT -5
Nice find! Guys who rescue bikes like that are heros in my mind. As for getting that cylinder off: it looks as though the jug itself is free, but the piston is stuck in the bore .. if that's the case, the acid trick won't work  I tried pounding my 400 cylinder off and it simply wasn't going to happen. Finally "bit the bullet" and tapped the stud holes with 5/8 coarse tap. Then threaded in some large bolts and modified a wheel puller so I could push down on the piston crown. Took a lot of pressure, but it worked! Start with this:  Modify the bolts on a grinder:  Bolt on to the tapped cylinder, put a piece of hardwood on the piston, tighten and tap with a hammer.  |
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Post by givr on Sept 17, 2009 8:06:02 GMT -5
Well, hard to tell from the pic if the cylinder's stuck, I assumed it was as I noticed the broken fins. It's obviously better if it isn't stuck. Where's the missing left cylinder stud, in a head bolt? I relish the opportunity to use the acid, noxious fumes, sizzling sounds, intended results mostly though. ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2009 8:26:15 GMT -5
Guys who rescue bikes like that are heros in my mind nice find , nice price. Excellent Save. You know Z is right. I don't know how to say this but buying a running triple is cool. I never had the pleasure. Most times it is the best choice for some folks. All my bikes started out 1 foot in the grave type a thing. The "bond" you form with a save like this is something you have to experience. My B was in terrible condition, not any more. I'll have it till I die, then the boy gets mine... All the best getting it done, your gonna love it. |
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Post by drewski on Sept 17, 2009 8:57:32 GMT -5
Yup, nice find! Like the others have said, I respect anyone who tackles a resto like this! I'm not sure I'd have the patience to bring it back to life!  With my H2b, I had the right side cylinder corroded to the studs. I tried heat, oils, beatings, and combinations of them all! I wish I had known about the "Antny Acid Method"!! I ended up splitting it with an air chisel!!  Be patient. Don't do what I did! ;D Have to say, H1 or H2, the "B" is one of my favorites!  ;D |
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Post by givr on Sept 17, 2009 9:03:29 GMT -5
I see the previous owner didn't take out the oil receiver for the transmission before splitting the cases, you'll going to need a replacement for that one. It's on the far right, (between your speedo and the gear shifter), there should be a small tube sticking out that goes into the output shaft of the transmission. Perhaps the little piece is still in the output shaft.   |
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Post by bake on Sept 17, 2009 11:36:35 GMT -5
Hey you have a " B" best darn Triple ever made ... EH Don? and the BEST looking ;D I just gotta know how you came up with my name? |
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Post by H2 Dude on Sept 17, 2009 11:40:23 GMT -5
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder Arielman.....
Hahaha I thought I might get a reaction... ;D
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2009 11:45:11 GMT -5
Arielman is a Psychic. Actually he was referring to me and my B. With the B your one of the chosen few now. I guess I should change my Board name back to biker Don This is my B Bake:  |
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Post by s3steve on Sept 17, 2009 11:49:14 GMT -5
"I just gotta know how you came up with my name? " Ian's a machine. He must be! What I'd like to know when do you sleep man?  You post way early in the morning then mid day and then again in the evening! ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by H2 Dude on Sept 17, 2009 11:49:48 GMT -5
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I tried pounding my 400 cylinder off and it simply wasn't going to happen. Finally "bit the bullet" and tapped the stud holes with 5/8 coarse tap. Then threaded in some large bolts and modified a wheel puller so I could push down on the piston crown. Took a lot of pressure, but it worked!
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